Xbox 360 AV Cable Modification to Add coax digital

Introduction

The Xbox and Xbox 360 AV cables come with digital audio outputs in the form of optical outputs. I never understood why anyone used these. The cables are expensive, you can't use standard cables you have lying around, you can't use simple A/V switches and the quality is the same as coax digital audio output. Since the signal is the same, Iwanted to add coax digital audio outputs on my Xbox 360. I got the idea from reading Matt Staroscik's instructions for the original Xbox. They can be found here. I woudln't have known this was possible without his help.

These are basically the same instructions, just for the Xbox 360. I've done this to two different cables. The first is for the AV cable that comes with the Xbox 360 upgraded system. It has outputs for HDTV as well as standard. Next, I did the same thing for the S-Video cable T purchased to use with my TV.

Standarded warnings: This modification is not recommend if you don't know what you are doing! You can seriously damage stuff! Microsoft will not support stuff you modify. The cable i bought was $15 so you won't break the bank if you mess up. However, if you short something it may break your Xbox. I'm not responsible for any of this!

HDTV/Standard TV cable: Pros - Easy to open, Cons - Harder to get the new wires out.


S-Video cable: Pros - Very easy to remove the optical output and run wires out of this slot, Cons - Harder to open, a bit destructive to the case

Both modifications take about 10 minutes and require the following:

  • Soldering Iron, I like a hot iron because you can get in and out very quickly. You don't have many sensitive components around to burn
  • Desoldering Iron - Highly recommended to remove the globs of solder holding the circuit board to the case on the HDTV cable, also nice to remove solder to remove the optical housing on the S-Video cable
  • Hot glue gun - Only if you want to ensure the wires aren't going anywhere.
  • Small screwdrivers to help you open the casings
  • Wire cutters/strippers
  • Small metal cutters - only if you want to cut a hole in the metal casing to get the wire out.
  • Heat shrink wire coverings - Mostly for the S-video cable, but you can make things neat with either
  • Coax cable - This is the wire with a shield around it. My pictures show a pair of wires, which works in short distances, like mine, but to do it right, get some coax wire
  • RCA ends - Either male or female. I used male because i had one lying around. I used a coupler to connect it to a 75-ohm video cable to my stereo. Use a female to avoid that.
  • 1 beer (it's that easy of a project)

HD/Standard TV Cable

Use a small screwdriver top open up the two halves of the gray casing. I found it is easiest to get in between the metal plug and the gray casing. Be careful as the plastic is soft and you will scratch it. If you dont' care, then dont' worry about it.

The arrows show how the casing is held together. Just seperate them. Work the screw driver around until it is seperated. Next look at the crimped part of the signal cable. Uncrimp this enough to remove the top of the metal casing. The exposed compents will look like this:

Several things to look at here. The black cube is the optical digital out. We need to get under it. Also look at the five colored wires next to it. These unplug to remove from the circuit board. Also, you can uncrimp the singal wire more to remove it. once you do this, be careful as the tiny wires are fragile.

Remove the electrical tape below the colored wires protecting the 5 points. Don't lose this. Next, pay attention to the 3 points i have arrows next to. You need to unsolder these to get the circuit board off of the metal casing. This is when a desoldering iron is worth it's weight in gold. When these are loose enough, the board lifts off of the metal casing. Since the HDTV/Standard TV switch is just below it, you have to lift at an angle.

Here's a desoldering iron. I bought this at radio shack. Heat up the solder until it metals and then squeeze the red thing and let go. The solder sucks back in. Its pretty neat.

When the circuit board lifts off, you are set.

Unplug the wires from the circuit board.

This is the top view, but what we are interested in is the bottom

You can leave the optical plug installed and connect wires to get the digital audio signal. The one nearest the switch is the signal (positive) and the one on the end is ground (negative). Connect small wires to this.

At this point it's up to you how to get the wires out. Depending on your needs and looks, you could do several things. I removed the plastic switch that switches the TV on the inside. I ran the wires out of the metal casing next to this switch and out the gray case where the plastic switch would have been. You could also use tin snips to cut a small hole in the metal casing to run the wires out of there and drill a hole in the plastic case. It's really up to you.

S-Video Cable

This type of cable is a little harder to get into. I torn mine apart, but i learned a little about it. Maybe you will have better luck. Unlike the HDTV cable, it is held together by tabs that lock, and is hard to unlock them. Mine ripped off as i opened it. If it happens, oh well, it does not affect performance. Start by putting a screw driver between the metal plug and the gray casing and go from there.

You are left with components that look like this

It is much simpler than the HDTV cable.

One key advantage is that the white wires are the connection to the digital out. Look closely at the circuit board and you will see what each one does.

Like the other cable, you are interested in the signal and the ground. You can see the middle one is for a voltage (to power the optical light). Since I thought there was a chance i would want to use the optical jack again, i marked the wires appropriately so i could reattach them some day. If you looked inside the metal casing, i'm sure you coudl see what wire went to what, but i used the simple method of marking each wire with a certain number of dots with a Sharpie. One dot for ground, two for VCC and three for signal. This is optional.



Unsolder the three wires, cut hte lead off of the VCC and cover it with electrical tape. You dont' want this shorting anything in your cable. Next, connect your external jack to the proper wires, and use heat
shrink wrap for good measure.

I chose to tape down the wire to the case because i'm not planning on unplugging this often or moving it around. If you travel with yoru Xbox, consider tying a knot in the wire so it doesn't pop out of the plastic case. THe best thing would be to buy a rubber grommet that will let hte wire go through and fill in the space around the opening. It's up to you.

Lastly, put the plastic case back together. Now you see the effects of taking apart the case. It would not stay shut, so I had to tape it shut. Consider gluing it, but it will be harder to get back in there. The way i look at it, you rarely look behind your Xbox.

This is my cable in action.

And here you can see that it is giving a nice Dolby Digital signal to my stereo.

If you run into problems, remember if these short out they will play anything. If the signal is poor, same thing. You won't have this problem with analog signals. Consider hot glue gunning connections to keep them from moving. Do not move things around too much as the components are fragile.

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Comments

Xbox 360™ VGA HD AV Cable Instructions?

Are the instructions the same for the Xbox 360™ VGA HD AV Cable?

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/x/xbox360vgahdcable/

Thanks . . great

Thanks . . great instructions . . . I added an spdif port to my HDMI AV cable dongle . . works great

got it

I also have the hdmi setup with the audio dongle that just has stereo and fiber. I was going to write and ask how you did this, because I couldnt figure it out. There was 4 wires going to my fiber optic and two to each stereo. But the I noticed that two of the 4 had parenthases around them () and that meant ground. Then I traced the other two and figured the one with the capacitor in line had to be power, which meant the other had to be signal. I desoldered the signal from its lead and resoldered it where the red signal wire was going to the red stereo rca jack. Now my red RCA jack is my digital coax. I can post pictures if anyone wants them.

Josh

Please post pics

Please post pics

I'm needing to do the exact

I'm needing to do the exact same thing as you, Josh. If you could post those pictures somewhere, that would be great. I was going to install an extra jack somewhere in the casing, but this would be much more ideal.

Thanks,
-Gabe

please post pics

please post pics, i've never really done much work like this before

What you want to do

Hi!

Take out the yellow cable (2nd from the left if you're looking at the bottom), and then take out the red cable (4th from the right if you're looking at the bottom) and then plug the yellow one in where the red one was.

Basically swap the red cable for the yellow cable. This will send the optical data to the red coax plug. Then you can use the red coax for your digital coax!!!!!!

Good luck, email me if you have any questions!!!

-David

I haven't taken the VGA

I haven't taken the VGA cable apart, but i found the inside of the HD cable and the SD cable to be similar. I'm sure the optical connector is identical, but disassembly may be different. Good luck.

Matt Warnock
Administrator
Warnock Inc.

Which are the signal and ground leads for the RCA plug?

Could you please clarify where the signal and the ground “taps” are located on the optical plug? Also, which lead should the signal be connected to on the RCA plug…the center point or the outside ring?

Thanks for this great mod.

-David

The VCC is power; do NOT use

The VCC is power; do NOT use this. The COM is ground, and the SPDIF labels the signal. In my diagram, the green wire is the signal and black is the ground. In the HD cable, the tap closest to the switch is the signal. Hope that helps.

Matt Warnock
Administrator
Warnock Inc.

Coax how to?

If i use a Coax cable instead of the to wires to the RCA end. Which cable shall i connect to the outer shield, and to the center conductor?

Niels

Neils, If you want to use a

Neils,

If you want to use a coax cable, connect the shield to ground.

Matt Warnock
Administrator
Warnock Inc.

Optical to Coax

THANKS ALOT :D

I've been looking everywhere for a tutorial on how to do this!
and i'm not paying money for a optical cable because they seem to break with me :(

Anywayz, wicked tutorial man!!!

Nathan Page

Images

The images are back up. Sorry about that!

-matt

Xbox 360 AV Cable Modification to Add coax digital

Just wanted to says thanks very much for the very detailled and accurate description above, just did it, took me about haf an hour, and all works as expected. My Yamha detects indeed the signal as Dolby Digital when playing. Great stuff, thanks again

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